Legislature(2007 - 2008)

03/25/2008 02:30 PM House MLV


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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
   HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON MILITARY AND VETERANS' AFFAIRS                                                                  
                         March 25, 2008                                                                                         
                           2:30 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Roses, Chair                                                                                                 
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom                                                                                                  
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Jay Ramras                                                                                                       
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Anna Fairclough                                                                                                  
Representative Robert L. "Bob" Buch                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
HOUSE BILL NO. 383                                                                                                              
"An Act establishing an exemption from the dentist licensing                                                                    
exam for certain persons."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 383 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 18                                                                                             
Awarding the Alaska Decoration of Honor to certain members of                                                                   
the military.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SCR 18 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 405                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to forgiveness of a percentage of student loans                                                                
for a member of the armed forces deployed since 2001."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
BILL: HB 383                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: DENTIST LICENSE EXAM EXCEPTION                                                                                     
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) COGHILL                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
02/19/08       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/19/08       (H)       MLV, L&C                                                                                               
03/18/08       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/18/08       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/25/08       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SCR 18                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: DECORATION OF HONOR                                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WIELECHOWSKI                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
02/19/08       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/19/08       (S)       HELD ON SECRETARY'S DESK                                                                               
02/20/08       (S)       TAKEN UP                                                                                               
02/21/08       (S)       TAKEN UP                                                                                               
02/21/08       (S)       BEFORE THE SENATE ON FINAL PASSAGE                                                                     
02/21/08       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
02/21/08       (S)       VERSION: SCR 18 AM                                                                                     
02/29/08       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/29/08       (H)       MLV                                                                                                    
03/25/08       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 405                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS FOR MILITARY                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) CRAWFORD                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
02/19/08       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/19/08       (H)       MLV, HES, FIN                                                                                          
03/18/08       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/18/08       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/25/08       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KAREN LIDSTER, Staff                                                                                                            
to Representative John Coghill                                                                                                  
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Introduced HB 383 on behalf of                                                                           
Representative John Coghill, sponsor.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DAVE EICHLER, D.D.S.; President                                                                                                 
Alaska State Board of Dental Examiners                                                                                          
North Pole, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:  Speaking as an individual, testified in                                                                  
support of HB 383.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BILL WIELECHOWSKI                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Introduced SCR 18, as the sponsor.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS BIRDSALL, Intern                                                                                                          
to Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Introduced   HB   405   on  behalf   of                                                             
Representative Harry Crawford, sponsor.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DIANE BARRANS, Executive Director                                                                                               
Postsecondary Education Commission                                                                                              
Department of Education and Early Development (DEED)                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing on HB 405.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BOB  ROSES called the  House Special Committee  on Military                                                             
and   Veterans'  Affairs   meeting  to   order  at   2:30:07  PM.                                                             
Representatives  Ramras,   Dahlstrom,  LeDoux,  and   Roses  were                                                               
present at  the call to  order.  Representative  Kawasaki arrived                                                               
as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HB 383-DENTIST LICENSE EXAM EXCEPTION                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:30:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 383, "An  Act establishing an exemption  from the                                                               
dentist licensing exam for certain persons."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:30:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  LIDSTER,  Staff  to Representative  John  Coghill,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature, introduced HB  383 on behalf of Representative                                                               
John Coghill, sponsor.  She  informed the committee that the bill                                                               
is a  small change in  existing statute  in order to  capture the                                                               
talent and  expertise of military  dentists who serve  in command                                                               
positions.  Ms.  Lidster indicated that the bill  has the support                                                               
of  the  state  Board  of Dental  Examiners,  the  Alaska  Dental                                                               
Society,  and  the Department  of  Military  & Veterans'  Affairs                                                               
(DMVA).   She explained  that it  is in  the state's  interest to                                                               
allow the exchange of 20 hours  of active clinical practice to be                                                               
exchanged  for  military  service   in  a  full-time  supervisory                                                               
position.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:32:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVE  EICHLER, D.D.S.;  President, Alaska  State Board  of Dental                                                               
Examiners, informed  the committee that  he was testifying  as an                                                               
individual.     He  stated  that   he  personally   pursued  this                                                               
legislation  to correct  an oversight  in  statute.   He gave  an                                                               
example of a  highly qualified dentist, in a  command position in                                                               
the armed services,  who did not qualify for  licensure under the                                                               
existing statute.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:33:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES closed public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:34:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM expressed her support for the bill.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:34:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS thanked Dr. Eichler for his testimony.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:35:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM moved  to report HB 383,  Version A, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being no objection, HB 383 was                                                               
reported  out of  the  House Special  Committee  on Military  and                                                               
Veterans' Affairs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SCR 18-DECORATION OF HONOR                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:35:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES  announced that the  next order of business  would be                                                               
SENATE  CONCURRENT   RESOLUTION  NO.  18,  Awarding   the  Alaska                                                               
Decoration of Honor to certain members of the military.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:35:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM  stated that this  is an issue  on which                                                               
many  House members  have been  working for  the past  18 months.                                                               
The Alaska Decoration of Honor will  be awarded to those who have                                                               
given   the  ultimate   sacrifice  in   defending  our   country.                                                               
Representative  Dahlstrom opined  that  this award  is the  least                                                               
that  Alaska can  do  to  thank the  veterans'  families and  she                                                               
expressed her  interest in  planning the  first ceremony  for the                                                               
presentation of the coins and boxes.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:37:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ROSES added  that  SCR 18  outlines  the presentation  and                                                               
lists the recipients of an  award that was established last year.                                                               
He noted that the list of  names is incomplete and recipients can                                                               
be added as they become known.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:37:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BILL  WIELECHOWSKI, Alaska State  Legislature, introduced                                                               
SCR  18, as  the sponsor.   He  stated that  the resolution  is a                                                               
follow up to previously passed  legislation, HB 244, and that the                                                               
resolution lists the  names of those who will  receive the Alaska                                                               
Decoration of Honor.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:38:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES closed public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:39:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAHLSTROM moved  to report  SCR 18,  Version C.A,                                                               
out  of   committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  the                                                               
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being no objection, SCR 18 was                                                               
reported  out of  the  House Special  Committee  on Military  and                                                               
Veterans' Affairs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:39:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES expressed his belief  that the committee members, and                                                               
others, are very appreciative of this legislation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:39:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HB 405-STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS FOR MILITARY                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:40:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  405,  "An  Act relating  to  forgiveness  of  a                                                               
percentage  of student  loans for  a member  of the  armed forces                                                               
deployed since 2001."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS BIRDSALL,  Intern to Representative Harry  Crawford, Alaska                                                               
State Legislature, introduced HB  405 on behalf of Representative                                                               
Crawford, sponsor.   He stated that  this bill will provide  a 50                                                               
percent  Alaska student  loan forgiveness  to residents  who have                                                               
served in the armed forces since  2001, and have been deployed to                                                               
Iraq or Afghanistan.  This legislation  is a way for the state to                                                               
recognize  the sacrifices  made  by veterans,  and  it will  ease                                                               
their  re-entry  into civilian  life  by  reducing the  financial                                                               
burden of college.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:41:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIANE  BARRANS,   Executive  Director,   Postsecondary  Education                                                               
Commission,  Department   of  Education  and   Early  Development                                                               
(DEED),  clarified   that  the  bill  provides   for  50  percent                                                               
forgiveness  of  any  loan  made   by  the  Alaska  Postsecondary                                                               
Education  Commission,   including  those  administered   by  the                                                               
commission  for  the  state supplemental  loan  program  and  the                                                               
federal family education loan program.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:42:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LEDOUX  asked   whether  the   state  would   be                                                               
responsible  for repayment  of $10,000  per loan  to the  federal                                                               
loan program, on behalf of the servicemen.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:42:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS explained that the  lender is the Alaska Student Loan                                                               
Corporation,  and   the  federal  government   simply  guarantees                                                               
repayment of the loan in the event of default.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:43:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS asked  for the fiscal note  attached to the                                                               
bill.  He  then pointed out that there are  armed service members                                                               
who are unable to collect  a permanent fund dividend (PFD) during                                                               
their  deployment and  that  the legislature  has  not taken  the                                                               
steps  to   resolve  this   situation.     Representative  Ramras                                                               
expressed his  hope that there  will be testimony from  the state                                                               
and legal resources  to address the question  of resident status.                                                               
He   urged  the   committee  to   take  into   consideration  the                                                               
resistance,  by  standing committees  and  the  legislature as  a                                                               
whole,  to  the establishment  of  resident  status for  deployed                                                               
service members  in order to qualify  for the PFD.   He noted his                                                               
personal  support for  the payment  of PFDs  to deployed  service                                                               
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:45:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BARRANS explained  that the  fiscal note  was determined  by                                                               
identifying borrowers  who had  qualified for  the 2007  PFD, and                                                               
who had received  a military deferment or  forbearance on student                                                               
loan payments.   She clarified that the $1.1 million  cost is the                                                               
immediate   entitlement  forgiveness,   and   future  costs   are                                                               
indeterminate.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:46:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked whether there  are any other areas of                                                               
danger to which Alaska service members have been deployed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:47:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BIRDSALL said  that he  did not  know.   He opined  that the                                                               
intent is  to reward  all of  those who are  serving in  areas of                                                               
danger.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:47:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX stated that,  in the bill, loan forgiveness                                                               
is  limited  to  those  who   have  been  deployed  to  Iraq  and                                                               
Afghanistan.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:48:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BIRDSALL acknowledged  that the  bill began  with those  who                                                               
have served  in Iraq;  however, the sponsor  does not  oppose the                                                               
expansion of the program to other troops.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM stated her  agreement with the intent of                                                               
the bill.  She supported  the point made by Representative LeDoux                                                               
to  include others  who are  serving under  dangerous conditions.                                                               
She suggested  changing the language  in HB 405 to  encompass all                                                               
who are serving.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:50:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES  noted the lack  of sufficient time to  consider this                                                               
important  issue.    He  indicated his  intent to  reschedule the                                                               
bill,  hear  further  testimony,  and  address  the  concerns  of                                                               
committee members.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:51:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS  stated that he represents  Ft. Wainwright,                                                               
and that  there is no  greater source of  pride.  He  pointed out                                                               
that there  are Alaska National Guard  troops who are in  no less                                                               
danger.  The complexity of  the bill warrants further discussion,                                                               
perhaps by Representative Kawasaki, who is a co-sponsor.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:52:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAWASAKI agreed  that there  are questions  about                                                               
the bill.   For example, how  to determine whether a  borrower is                                                               
stationed  in  Iraq  or  Afghanistan,  rather  than  on  a  brief                                                               
assignment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:53:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES  encouraged the bill's sponsors  to make improvements                                                               
to be heard at later hearing.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:53:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS  stressed that  there are many  more pieces                                                               
to  this legislation  when  the  loss of  life  of other  service                                                               
members, such as the Coast Guard, is considered.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:54:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM  encouraged the sponsor to  add a policy                                                               
for those who  default in their student loans,  previous to their                                                               
application for forgiveness.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:55:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES explained that there  could be a deliberate action to                                                               
avoid payment prior to deployment.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:56:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  advised the committee  that the period of  time that                                                               
an applicant could apply for  forgiveness is not specified in the                                                               
bill; in  fact, there is  no authorization for  the Postsecondary                                                               
Education Commission  to write regulations  and define  the terms                                                               
and conditions of the program.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:56:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES stated his support for further discussion by Ms.                                                                    
Barrans and the sponsor of HB 405.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:57:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ROSES announced that HB 405 would be held in committee                                                                    
with public testimony open.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:57:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Military and Veterans' Affairs meeting was                                                                 
adjourned at 2:57 p.m.                                                                                                          

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